2009-09-11
2009-09-08 Southwest Creek, Camp Lejeune, NC
2009-09-08 Southwest Creek, Camp Lejeune, NC
The battle on how to control Alligatorweed goes on!
The battle on how to control Alligatorweed goes on!
This trip was after the good prolonged tropical rains we received. Jacksonville
was reported at 4.7 inches. Jaclsonville City limits border this creek
Today we intended to clear out the west smaller channel which takes off right
below the bridge as this can only be done with good high water.
When we arrived we observed the rush of high water had lifted 80 % of what
was tied up on the bridge pilings and the old pilings left in the water.
So, on seeing this, we decided to help nature and finish what the high water
had done and finish clearing all alligatorweed from the bridge pilings, both
existing and the old ones that were cutoff at water level. We thought that
this would only take us a few hours at most!
But, alas, it took us all day just to get the east side cleared.
This is one completely cleared opening.
was reported at 4.7 inches. Jaclsonville City limits border this creek
Today we intended to clear out the west smaller channel which takes off right
below the bridge as this can only be done with good high water.
When we arrived we observed the rush of high water had lifted 80 % of what
was tied up on the bridge pilings and the old pilings left in the water.
So, on seeing this, we decided to help nature and finish what the high water
had done and finish clearing all alligatorweed from the bridge pilings, both
existing and the old ones that were cutoff at water level. We thought that
this would only take us a few hours at most!
But, alas, it took us all day just to get the east side cleared.
This is one completely cleared opening.
Here is another. All of them were cleared on the west side only. We took before
and after pictures. Unfortunately, the "before" pictures were blurred and
Ed Gruca would not publish them. I have saved them if anyone wants to see them.
and after pictures. Unfortunately, the "before" pictures were blurred and
Ed Gruca would not publish them. I have saved them if anyone wants to see them.
These are examples of what we had to pull off the front face of the new pilings
and up and over the numerous old pilings
and up and over the numerous old pilings
This is more of the same.
This was a very difficult job. We could not sit upright in the canoe due to the high water.
The long stems and roots went down way below the top of the old pilings. They were
twisted and interwoven and hung together in a very heavy mass.
As you can see they are very much alive. They survived Brian Wheat's spraying and the
other earlier heavy spraying by parties unknown.
Some of it could even be new coming from upstream. We are sure tons more of it
from upstream was flushed through the bridge too by the extremely high water.
We will explore next week below the bridge and see what has happened to all of that.
Unfortunately again, Brian did not spray what is growing on land on the east end of the
bridge or anywhere else. Instead, his group sprayed what was floating and hung up in
the kill zone all the way down below the bridge.
Why, Brian? It would have died down there anyway! We need to work together, Brian!
What you wasted down there could have killed all alligatorweed growing on land in the
entire creek!
Let's get together Brian and work together like we used to do and get this job done! Elmer
While we are here this is as good a time as any to get this controversial issue settled.
This is the second time we have cleared all alligatorweed hung up on these old pilings.
If they are left there again on the next bridge replacement it will create a virtual dam!
So why wait until then to replace them? They never should have been left there in the
first place!
They violate every State and Federal law on the books for navigable waters. And, by
definition Southwest Creek is a navigable body of water.
We had been working with Mr. William Rogers, Head Environmentalist for Camp Lejeune,
and had obtained a reasonable quote from a licensed approved contractor to do the job.
When this controversy arose Mr. Rogers felt he needed the approval of the "experts" before
spending government money. As Brian Wheat was the apparent leader of the "experts" I
phoned Brian and he agreed with me on the removal and said he would call Mr. Rogers
Monday and tell him so.
Brian became miffed at me because of an e-mail I had written over the weekend and
never called and continues to refuse to do so even though he knows these pilings should
be removed if we are ever going to control the rapid growth of alligatorweed in this creek.
I then went directly to the Coast Guard. They agreed they never should have been left there.
But, as there is no commercial navigation on Southwest Creek and no one has complained
about their presence they don't feel there is sufficient cause to remove them now.
We also think a strict and proper interpretation of the federal and state laws applying to
noxious, invasive, imported foreign, aquatic weeds requires their removal.
We think Wildlife will agree with this and am asking Gordon Myers by copy of this e-mail to
come forth and express their concern about their presence here which has allowed alligatorweed
to flourish here and double in volume every two to three weeks. They thus create a perfect nursery
for alligatorweed to do just this.
This has grown to the point of a solid blanket not only here at the bridge but up and down the
entire creek again and again. This has cut off the sunlight necessary for bream to propagate and
destroyed the opportunity to fly fish and fish any way in these places.
There are always some Marines fishing here at the bridge. They can fish on the down-water side of the bridge
only as they cannot get their lines in the water on the upstream side. (Until now, that is.)
Hopefully, all concerned will come forth and ask the Coast Guard to remove these pilings. Elmer
Elmer Eddy
bridge or anywhere else. Instead, his group sprayed what was floating and hung up in
the kill zone all the way down below the bridge.
Why, Brian? It would have died down there anyway! We need to work together, Brian!
What you wasted down there could have killed all alligatorweed growing on land in the
entire creek!
Let's get together Brian and work together like we used to do and get this job done! Elmer
While we are here this is as good a time as any to get this controversial issue settled.
This is the second time we have cleared all alligatorweed hung up on these old pilings.
If they are left there again on the next bridge replacement it will create a virtual dam!
So why wait until then to replace them? They never should have been left there in the
first place!
They violate every State and Federal law on the books for navigable waters. And, by
definition Southwest Creek is a navigable body of water.
We had been working with Mr. William Rogers, Head Environmentalist for Camp Lejeune,
and had obtained a reasonable quote from a licensed approved contractor to do the job.
When this controversy arose Mr. Rogers felt he needed the approval of the "experts" before
spending government money. As Brian Wheat was the apparent leader of the "experts" I
phoned Brian and he agreed with me on the removal and said he would call Mr. Rogers
Monday and tell him so.
Brian became miffed at me because of an e-mail I had written over the weekend and
never called and continues to refuse to do so even though he knows these pilings should
be removed if we are ever going to control the rapid growth of alligatorweed in this creek.
I then went directly to the Coast Guard. They agreed they never should have been left there.
But, as there is no commercial navigation on Southwest Creek and no one has complained
about their presence they don't feel there is sufficient cause to remove them now.
We also think a strict and proper interpretation of the federal and state laws applying to
noxious, invasive, imported foreign, aquatic weeds requires their removal.
We think Wildlife will agree with this and am asking Gordon Myers by copy of this e-mail to
come forth and express their concern about their presence here which has allowed alligatorweed
to flourish here and double in volume every two to three weeks. They thus create a perfect nursery
for alligatorweed to do just this.
This has grown to the point of a solid blanket not only here at the bridge but up and down the
entire creek again and again. This has cut off the sunlight necessary for bream to propagate and
destroyed the opportunity to fly fish and fish any way in these places.
There are always some Marines fishing here at the bridge. They can fish on the down-water side of the bridge
only as they cannot get their lines in the water on the upstream side. (Until now, that is.)
Hopefully, all concerned will come forth and ask the Coast Guard to remove these pilings. Elmer
Elmer Eddy
Elmer, The White Oak River Trashman
Stewards of The White Oak River Basin
Waterway Stewards
207 Spann Road, Trenton, NC, 28585
910-389-4588 e-mail: elmer@whiteoakstewards.org
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